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Old 12-10-2009, 07:45 PM
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No mate, no affront taken.

Between Tiger and Elin is exactly what the cheating rat bag wants. Truth is that if she stays with him (for any other reason than for their kids) she will drop as far in my estimation as he has.
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Old 12-10-2009, 10:47 PM
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I don't think that its only between Tiger and Elin. It's between Tiger, Elin, their attorney's, Tigers PR people, his sponsors and all and any of his ex-girlfriends wanting money or publicity and anyone else with some story to tell or trade for money. When that's done, then Tiger is free to tell his side of the story in any way he chooses. Then we'll be expected to swallow all the koolaid and become happy and supportive fans.

Tigers income machine is based on his ability to bring his fans to his sponsors, not the other way around. We are the product. We, are what the sponsors are paying for.


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Old 12-10-2009, 11:15 PM
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Tiger made one hundred million last year. Ninety three million from sponsors.
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
Sorry Burley. I have now lost ALL respect for Mr. Crane. This is between Tiger and Elin now.

Kevin
I think Ben Crane is pretty high quality . . . with the way he handled the Sabo mess . . .

May want to have a look at this .. . .
http://www.cgfonline.org/about/index.htm

Crane hosts 30 college golfers every year at his place I think . . .
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Old 12-10-2009, 11:26 PM
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Okie here is an example of what I think we both would agree is a very high journalistic standard.

From the good folks at the South African Broadcasting Corporation 2.

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Old 12-11-2009, 01:02 AM
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"UPDATE"

Statements by Ben Crane's and Charles Warren's (Agents) are being questioned as false media or imposter's!


http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/blog/de...rn=golf,207961
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Old 12-11-2009, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 12 piece bucket View Post
I think Ben Crane is pretty high quality . . . with the way he handled the Sabo mess . . .

May want to have a look at this .. . .
http://www.cgfonline.org/about/index.htm

Crane hosts 30 college golfers every year at his place I think . . .
It turns out that was just more tabloid reporting by the media. Mr. Crane didn't make those comments. I regret making that post. Apologies.

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Old 12-11-2009, 10:39 AM
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Stories that are publised by the press always seem to be pretty far from the truth. Some of it is flat out wrong. A lot of the parts that has some truth in it is put in the wrong contest and basically misinterpreted.

I have been interviewed by journalists a couple of times and it can be quite frustrating and even embarrasing to read what they present as "your" version of a topic. And to this day I have never met anyone with first hand knowledge of events that hits the news who say that media got it right. The journalists and reporters are basically looking for an excuse to present a good story rather than a truth story. When they have their hypothetical intrigue ready they dig, selects and twist facts, and disregard conflicting information to build their case. And they tend to stick to their initial story no matter what the facts says. That's just the nature of the beast.

Each single story regarding the Tiger scandal should be taken in with a large grain of salt. And even though the dirt digging brings more undisputable facts to the table, the interpretation of the facts and the selection of which facts to present will probably remain twisted as long as this is big news. Just my 5 cents.

The total coverage of this scandal is likely to give us a better idea about what has really been going on, how and why. And I have to admit; Some of the evidences looks pretty solid and it doesn't look pretty even if you read between the lines.

Right now I find it highly unlikely that Tiger has invented this sort of behavior himself. And it's partly thanks to some of the posts in this thread. Which I think is quite sober and trusthworthy overall. A lot of it must be grounded in the people, the culture, the values that have surrounded him since he was a kid, destined to become a star. I think cynism is a proper word for it. This doesn't make Tiger a better person of course. But it makes what has happened more understandable. And perhaps more sad too.

If I had a son that was a really good golfer I am not sure if I would encoraged him to aim for a playing pro carreer right now. It may not be a good way of living even though the golf is great and the money is good and the girls are pretty. But I wouldn't encorage my kids to climb the Mount Everest either. Base camp is probably OK I guess, but it becomes increasingly dangerous as you get close to the top. Above 8000 metres a human life seems to be less worth than in a war zone. Everyone's ambitions of getting to the top pushes empathy way down the value ladder. And everybody involved seem to be OK with that. Life at the top is highly overrated and Tiger has been at the top for a long time. I don't think he has chosen his own destiny and I feel sorry for him.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:26 PM
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Nice, just say your a player on the tour to some mag that would not know the difference and write anything....man I feel for Crane, a really quality individual who has been hammered over slow play, is now going to be stained cause of this.
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Old 12-11-2009, 12:46 PM
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Wait a minute, we're approaching noon EST and skank free so far today.............Headlines:

"is Tiger stalling in his quest for 18? "

"What's wrong with Tiger?"

"Is Tiger Slumping?"

"Tiger Slump Deepens"

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