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Old 10-23-2012, 01:11 PM
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More on the Hand Acceleration death ray to feed my computer!

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The Hand-Controlled Right Shoulder
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This quotation suggests that one should begin the downstroke with the pivot and then begin swinging the arms as delivery of the power package. Is this to be understood as one pattern among many, or should this be a part of every pattern? The reason this interests me is that I have finally found consistency and power once I figured out how to accomplish the three imperatives by allowing my pivot to respond to the arm swing, rather than having my pivot drive my arm swing.
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My friend and student, rprevost, is being very 'politically correct' here.

He visited me in The Swamp this past summer, and I taught him to 'keep the right sho
ulder back' (from the Top) and to 'swing the Arms' down and through the ball. He learned a true, Hand-Controlled Pivot and left striping shot-after-shot with many yards added to every drive. Now, here I am stating that the Pivot -- the Body's Rotation -- delivers the loaded Power Package from Start Down into Release. Is there an inconsistency here?

You bet!

And that inconsistency is between 'Feel' and 'Real'.

The BODY is Zone 1 -- PIVOT. It sets up the circular, centrifugal Motion of the Stroke.

The ARMS are Zone 2 -- POWER. Along with the Club, they supply the Force of the Stroke.

In the Start Down and Downstroke, the PIVOT leads and the Arms follow. Not the other way around. Otherwise, the Right Arm must begin its straightening immediately from the Top, and this can only result in Throwaway.

So...

The Pivot consists of the Feet, Knees, Hips and Shoulders. Lower Body and Upper Body. The Lower Body leads and the Upper Body lags.

Pivot Lag (6-C-0; 6-M-1).

When the Right Shoulder stays BACK -- ON PLANE -- as it should in Start Down (7-13), it feels as if it is doing NOTHING. But that is NOT the case! In fact, the Body is moving first -- from the Feet up -- and is actively transferring the Pivot Motion to the Arms and Hands. But that transference is not with a Right Shoulder returning to its Off Plane Address Position (and thus forcing the Hands to follow its ignorant lead). Instead, the Right Shoulder is Turning Down Plane and returning all Pivot and Power Package Components to their pre-selected Impact position. Thus, the Power Package is Delivered Down Plane to Release by the last and farthest moving Component of the Pivot, i.e., the Turning Right Shoulder.

The Arms and Hands feel as though it was their idea all the time.

Which, of course, it was.

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Old 10-23-2012, 09:14 PM
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More on the Right Forearm Angle of Approach.

http://youtu.be/c3kaU1QxHW8


Lot's of interesting stuff here!

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Old 10-24-2012, 09:07 AM
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From your post above......

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When the Right Shoulder stays BACK -- ON PLANE -- as it should in Start Down (7-13), it feels as if it is doing NOTHING. But that is NOT the case! In fact, the Body is moving first -- from the Feet up -- and is actively transferring the Pivot Motion to the Arms and Hands. But that transference is not with a Right Shoulder returning to its Off Plane Address Position (and thus forcing the Hands to follow its ignorant lead). Instead, the Right Shoulder is Turning Down Plane and returning all Pivot and Power Package Components to their pre-selected Impact position. Thus, the Power Package is Delivered Down Plane to Release by the last and farthest moving Component of the Pivot, i.e., the Turning Right Shoulder.
This is very well said. Is this from Yoda?
Hands controlled Pivot.

Lets add one thing. If you Load the #3 Pressure Point, aim it directly at the Ball, then begin your down-stroke Pivot, you will easily feel your Right Shoulder motion at Start-down. If you allow your Pivot to comply with the #3 Pressure Point, then your Right Shoulder will "Feel" "as if it is doing NOTHING". Otherwise, you will Feel the Right Shoulder moving out above Plane.
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Fixed to make it more clear
Yoda's response is now in blue and he alone has said that nice description!

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From your post above......



This is very well said. Is this from Yoda?
Hands controlled Pivot.

Lets add one thing. If you Load the #3 Pressure Point, aim it directly at the Ball, then begin your down-stroke Pivot, you will easily feel your Right Shoulder motion at Start-down. If you allow your Pivot to comply with the #3 Pressure Point, then your Right Shoulder will "Feel" "as if it is doing NOTHING". Otherwise, you will Feel the Right Shoulder moving out above Plane.
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It feels like it simply drops down!
By having the right elbow put in place by the restriction of the left arm, from Impact Fix, the Power Package feels as if it simply drops down on the ball with a little him bump to give it some momentum or drag load the gyroscope .


Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
From your post above......



This is very well said. Is this from Yoda?
Hands controlled Pivot.

Lets add one thing. If you Load the #3 Pressure Point, aim it directly at the Ball, then begin your down-stroke Pivot, you will easily feel your Right Shoulder motion at Start-down. If you allow your Pivot to comply with the #3 Pressure Point, then your Right Shoulder will "Feel" "as if it is doing NOTHING". Otherwise, you will Feel the Right Shoulder moving out above Plane.
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By having the right elbow put in place by the restriction of the left arm, from Impact Fix, the Power Package feels as if it simply drops down on the ball with a little him bump to give it some momentum or drag load the gyroscope .
Some random thoughts.

You're feeling the Mechanics of the Power Package. Specifically, the Hand Acceleration Phase of the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence. Try to also feel Shoulder Acceleration and Release (Pulley). It sounds like you have the Flying Wedges ALIGNED at Right Angles (very good). Delivery Motion "Feels" Slotted. Hand Acceleration Phase "Feels" like the Power Package is dropping from the Shoulder joints.

Delivery of the Power Package

1-L
7. The Lever Assembly is driven by exerting pressure against it.
8. No proportion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.
9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.
10. The Lever Assembly must be driven through Impact by an On Plane force (moving toward the Plane Line).

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DEFINITION

6-0 GENERAL
The Power Package concept isolates and defines the functions of the Hands and Arms in propelling the Clubhead into Impact. The Power Package consists of the Arms and the Club – as discussed herein – and includes the four Power Accumulators, the four Pressure Points, their Loading and the Clubhead Lag. There is no Stroke which does not include a Power Package Assembly and the five-step sequence of their operation – Accumulation, Load, Storage, Delivery and Release.

STRUCTURE


6-A-1 THE TRIANGLE ASSEMBLY The Power Package is basically a Triangle and this form puts it under the Law of the Triangle. The Straight Left Arm forms Side One, the Shoulders form the second Side and a line from the Right Shoulder to Hands forms the Third Side – whether the Right Arm is straight or bent. So the shape of the Triangle can be changed only by changing the length of the Third Side. Also, regarding Structure, study 6-B-1-D and 6-B-3-0-1.
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Guess it's time for indoor ranges in MN, WI and IL!
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Some random thoughts.

You're feeling the Mechanics of the Power Package. Specifically, the Hand Acceleration Phase of the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence. Try to also feel Shoulder Acceleration and Release (Pulley). It sounds like you have the Flying Wedges ALIGNED at Right Angles (very good). Delivery Motion "Feels" Slotted. Hand Acceleration Phase "Feels" like the Power Package is dropping from the Shoulder joints.

Delivery of the Power Package

1-L
7. The Lever Assembly is driven by exerting pressure against it.
8. No proportion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.
9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.
10. The Lever Assembly must be driven through Impact by an On Plane force (moving toward the Plane Line).

To all my friends and fellow TGM'rs: take it easy and be safe during the upcoming storms! SEEK INDOOR RANGES! Unless you are set-up to move to Florida!



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"Riding the "Plane " (forward, down and) out " (with apologies to the tune of "Ridin' the Storm Out).

Ridin' the Plane out
Avoiding the Throw Out
in the shadow of the full sun of a Philadelphia winter
My right arm is low, taking back 90 degrees and slow
Thinking of not missing a thing with my swing


And I'm not missing a swing
Watchin' the ball straight down the range
Ridin' the Plane out
Ridin' the Plane out.

My RFT's beside me, it's there to guide me.
At 90 degrees flying wedges finally found a home.
Water on left is frightening,
But Impact Fix makes the fairway middle inviting
It's a Plane life we live and it gives back what you give.

ICT


The real song!

Songwriters: RICHRATH, GARY
Ridin' the storm out, waitin' for the thaw out
On a full moon night in the rocky mountain winter.
My wine bottle's low, watching for the snow
I've been thinking lately of what I'm missing in the city.
[ Lyrics from: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/reo+spe..._20115772.html ]
And I'm not missing a thing
Watchin' the full moon crossing the range
Ridin' the storm out
Ridin' the storm out.

My lady's beside me, she's there to guide me.
She says that alone we've finally found home.
The wind outside is frightening,
But it's kinder than the lightning life in the city.
It's a hard life to live but it gives back what you give.

Send "Ridin' The Storm Out" Ringtone to your Cell
Ridin' The Storm Out lyrics © EMI Music Publishing
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Seeing and feeling the Plane with Acquired Motion
Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Some random thoughts.

You're feeling the Mechanics of the Power Package. Specifically, the Hand Acceleration Phase of the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence. Try to also feel Shoulder Acceleration and Release (Pulley). It sounds like you have the Flying Wedges ALIGNED at Right Angles (very good). Delivery Motion "Feels" Slotted. Hand Acceleration Phase "Feels" like the Power Package is dropping from the Shoulder joints.

Delivery of the Power Package

1-L
7. The Lever Assembly is driven by exerting pressure against it.
8. No proportion of the Lever Assembly can swing forward independently.
9. Regardless of how the Lever Assembly is driven, it moves in a circle.
10. The Lever Assembly must be driven through Impact by an On Plane force (moving toward the Plane Line).
At Acquired Motion, Daryl, with my wedges set 90 degrees to each other on plane (during swinging) it feels like the swing is over. The slightest move left fires the hands to throw at the ball on the baseline of the plane.

But in Hitting there is a covering of the line that runs through the inner quadrant of the ball out to right field. A slight push off or hip bump there makes the elbow to feel like it drops on the line bringing the impact to the inner quadrant of the ball.

Is that the elbow drop feeling you are talking about?

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Old 10-26-2012, 01:39 PM
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At Acquired Motion, Daryl, with my wedges set 90 degrees to each other on plane (during swinging) it feels like the swing is over. The slightest move left fires the hands to throw at the ball on the baseline of the plane.

But in Hitting there is a covering of the line that runs through the inner quadrant of the ball out to right field. A slight push off or hip bump there makes the elbow to feel like it drops on the line bringing the impact to the inner quadrant of the ball.

Is that the elbow drop feeling you are talking about?

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The Curriculum's, are, "Basic Motion", "Acquired Motion", and "Total Motion".

These represent the 3 steps of Acceleration in the Downstroke Acceleration Sequence.

Basic Motion:
Teaches Clubhead Acceleration. It's the Right Forearm Angle of Approach that creates the Pulley - Release. You learn that while the Hands move a few inches, that the Clubhead Travels 6 feet. CF Throwout for Swingers, #1 Accumulator for Hitters.

Acquired Motion: Teaches Hand Acceleration. This is bringing the in-tact, undisturbed Power Package into the pulley. This is the swing phase in which the Left Arm is Blasted from the Chest and the Right Elbow and Forearm move together toward the Release Point. Use the Bucket Drill to Learn both "Basic and Acquired" motion. Learn the Straight Line Delivery to the Pulley. This is where it feels like the Power Package Drops from the Shoulders Joints. That's ok while learning. But then you should start "Driving", and then, it will feel like you're Dragging. Drag with your Pivot. Drag the #3 PP into the Pulley, then,,,keep dragging.

Total Motion: Teaches Shoulder Acceleration. This is the Pivot, rapidly accelerating the Right Shoulder - and - Power Package.

Keep these three Phases distinct while mastering. Most useful is learning the Pulley. Then, Hand Acceleration, Then Shoulder Acceleration.

Have you mastered the "Pulley" - Right Forearm Angle of Approach? It Sounds like you are getting better and better. But, I don't think that you're performing Acquired Motion correctly. You Said: "The slightest move left fires the hands to throw" sounds more like "Pulley". If it were Acquired motion then you would say: "it feels like I'm dragging a wet mop".

The Second Stage is the MOST CRITICAL and Important. And, by far, it is the most difficult to learn. Not properly executing the Hand Acceleration Phase causes you to lose Lag Pressure and cause the Clubhead to lead the Shaft into impact. Both Amateur and Professional Hacks swing while poorly executing this phase.

Do Not allow misguided efforts to sidetrack your progress. You're focusing on covering the line or tracing???? No. Learn swinging first. Get that Right Elbow and Forearm AWAY from the Body. Learn to deliver the Hands to the Pulley. Then worry about Plane Line Tracing and Loading to Hit.
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