You cannot use Extensor Action on the Elbow Plane. Maybe a Hitter can, I don't know, but I do know, positively without a doubt, that Extensor Action cannot be active/used if you swing on an elbow Plane.
This was a very good tip, Daryl. But I KNOW that you can do extencior action with shift down to elbow plane.
It requires a different rhythm. But I think I understand why you say so. Because since I tried the stock TGM address position I have been experiencing frequent problems with an open club face through impact. But when I have the pivot and arms working the way I want them to, I can do all the extencior action I can produce. I can even drive load without losing club face control.
Doing extencior action on an elbow plane is probably not compatible with a back stroke that starts with a right forearm pick-up.
Doing a back stroke that makes the slight arch happen automatically is part of the solution.
I renew my Huh?
Well aware that we sit in the lounge.
Extensor action, Bah humbug! Not that it is wrong but that it is incomplete.
Got your attention?
Need some stick figures soon!!
The triangle- 2 fixed sides one adjustable-Attached at the center of the short side(presumption on short side) Not a hinge point but solid.
The more machine like and solid this triangle the better.
The shoulders are points . they do not move independantly. Build a solid structure- sure extensor action is PART of the assembly but the structure in its simplicity WITHOUT ADDITIONAL HINGING OR FLAPPING ABOUT PARTS, all moving with their LIMITATIONS of range. That is the feel of mass that gives the wrists FREEDOM to operate from. We are tought by those far wiser than myself that golf is a feel not a ... whatever. I think this is most important and untill it is grasped "NOTHING ELSE MUCH MATTERS".
The shoulders are points . they do not move independantly. Build a solid structure- sure extensor action is PART of the assembly but the structure in its simplicity WITHOUT ADDITIONAL HINGING OR FLAPPING ABOUT PARTS, all moving with their LIMITATIONS of range. That is the feel of mass that gives the wrists FREEDOM to operate from. We are tought by those far wiser than myself that golf is a feel not a ... whatever. I think this is most important and untill it is grasped "NOTHING ELSE MUCH MATTERS".
The Bear
I agree. However, the Power Package is best assembled and guided to the Top of the Swing under the Push-Force of Extensor Action. EA ensures that the Flying Wedge Alignments (for those that assemble at Start-up like me) remain aligned to the Top/End of the Swing.
Anyone can sense the Alignments, but with Extensor Action, adjusting the Alignments can be easily nursed. And I mean that we all Plane-Shift during the Backstroke, which requires re-alignment onto the Turned Shoulder Plane at Transition, before Start-down. It's not only the Clubshaft, but the Power Package that needs re-alignment. Leaving your hands at the Top is a good substitute, but I'd rather use the technique simply to increase shoulder lag because the Pivot is already responding to the #3 PP pressure.
Golf is best Played by Feel a Feel that reproduces learned Mechanics to the TGM practitioner. These Mechanics are Aligned Geometrically. But freedom of movement is a prerequisite to properly Aligned Mechanics. Like the hinged door it moves freely ........but in a certain direction only. So I agree there is no "flapping around of parts" but there must be freedom of movement...........at the Shoulders, at the Right Elbow, at the Wrists. EA should not limit this range of motion. For instance in 4-0 Homer recommends " firm grip and flexible wrist action".
The Triangle isnt locked up! A rigid Triangle would be consistent with a "rock the triangle" Shoulder Turn Takeaway where there is no shortening on the right arms side of the triangle! EA stretchs the inert left arm with the Right Elbow at the #1 pp (most commonly). But the place where the left arm attaches to the body, the Left Shoulder is universal joint like in its freedom of motion. It has to be. Any tension at either Shoulder will promote the ARms and therefore the Hands traveling along with the Shoulders as they turn away!!!!!! The Shoulders side of the triangle is fixed in length, the left arms side is fixed, assuming there is no left elbow bending........the right sides shortens as the right elbow bends and fans. Shortens immediately in Startup!
The left arm in TGM is said to be String Like, inert, but it must be stretched to full length.............this is all that EA is or does. Its casts the Right Side as the "mover" as active and the left side as passive and in that way resolves the directional conflict that exists between the two arms. They attach at different points to the body after all and therefore travel in slightly different directions with different vectors to any force which they are applying. EA turns the left side off but stretches it out so it can achieve its one job, to establish the Radius of the Geometry of the Circle.
I have found that much of TGM will come to life in your swing after the adoption of Extensor Action.......but not before. You can not have a Magical Right Forearm without an inert Left Arm.
Now, in the absence of EA you could have an inert rod like left arm.... maybe????? Yoda did take some lessons with Paul Bertholy , Mr "Rod and Claw". I bet he has entertained the Rod vs String question. And has anyone ever thought about EA as artificial CF for low speeds where CF is also very low? Uh, are we in the Lab? Hope so. Where the heck are we?
Hey man, we're not saying that it's rigid non-moving, but that the alignments are held in place by extensor action. But I liked your post. I always like reading your posts.
more gold there and thanks for the reminder of that great video OB.
Now I know for sure where my draw went!
__________________ The student senses his teacher’s steadfast belief and quiet resolve: “This is doable. It is doable by you. The pathway is there. All you need is determination and time.” And together, they make it happen.
I will be back to this later today but in the mean time:
The "bands" are part of Hogans EA.
The shoulders are -unfortunately- universal joints. BUT only some of the degrees of freedom are good for golf.
That is the KEY.
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