Hi Air. Daryl and I tease because it is an acceptable form of male bonding
Originally Posted by Daryl
A typical Golf Swing uses many components and procedures. Mixing them, some swinging and some Hitting is typical of most swing patterns.
Swinging is when CF Uncocks the Left Wrist and Hitting is when Right Arm Thrust Uncocks the Left Wrist.
But generally I would reserve the word "Switter" for those who mix incompatible procedures and end up with a less than desirable swing, for example, like Patrick . But I don't know the history of the word.
But a 4 Barrel Hitter is one who does both in one swing. I don't think that a 4 Barrel Hitter would be called a "Switter".
But, you should know that Daryl, OB Left, KevCarter, JerryG, Bernt R, Bam-Bam, Yoda and Yoda's Luke and lots of others here are serious golf swing aficionados to wit:
A little gem from Daryl in our archives:
Acceleration in the Golf Swing (Total Motion) is a three stage procedure. 1,2,3.
• Acceleration in all three stages is very brief.
• Acceleration is going from “0” to its maximum velocity of the Body Part.
• Each of the Three Accelerating Body parts begins at Zero in spite of being carried along by the previous body part.
• Once the Accelerated body part is traveling at maximum velocity, it continues only for another brief moment. Any body part that is accelerating will slow down the previous accelerating body part.
• The Faster that the previous body Part Accelerated, the Faster the next Body Part Can Accelerate.
Right Shoulder acceleration is the first stage.
• Lowering your Left Heel to the Ground accelerates your Right Shoulder Down Plane.
• If you lower your Left Heel and hold your hands at the Top, your Right Shoulder will accelerate faster when it’s released.
• If you lower your Left Heel before your Hands reach the Top and hold your Hands at the Top, then your Right Shoulder will accelerate faster still.
• If you lower your Left Heel, then sharply bend both knees before your Hands reach the Top and hold your Hands at the Top, then your Right Shoulder will accelerate faster still.
Shoulder Acceleration is very brief. While the shoulder Accelerates, the Right Elbow does not move closer to the Body. The Right Elbow (part of the Power Package) stays in the same relationship to the Body as it had at the Top (or end) of the Swing.
Arm Acceleration is the Second Stage.
• When the Right Elbow moves to the side or in front of the body (Push or Slap) your arms are accelerating.
• The Farther your Elbow travels, the greater the velocity.
• The Thrust is Downward.
• The Elbow moving into your body does not Throw the Left Arm off the Chest.
• The Elbow moving toward your body does not release the club.
• Arm acceleration picks up where Shoulder acceleration left off. So, the higher the shoulder velocity, then the higher the Arm velocity. Low thrust-low velocity, High thrust-high velocity.
Clubhead Acceleration is the third stage.
It is the Fanning of the Right Forearm Forward for both Hitters and Swingers. This is where Hitters apply muscular effort to Slap-Punch the Ball. This is where Swingers want five right hands because the accelerating clubhead is slowing the hands.
• This acceleration stage is when and where Release Begins.
• This stage is not called hand acceleration. From the Right Elbow all of the way to the Clubhead, with a level and bent right wrist acts as though these parts are cast together into a single unit.
• This is the stage when your Left Arm moves away from your chest
• Your Right elbow is straightening
• At this moment, your pivot is stressing-out from the entire sum of Lag.
If any of the phases of acceleration wimps out, the #3 pressure point Lag Pressure will fade. If you pull down using your arms from the top of your swing, you just lost stage 1 and 2 and prematurely release the Club. The only thing you should use to hit a golfball is the Golf ball collector cart at the range.
WOW...This really looks like a Right Sided Game!
Anyway, I was just thinking about it.
Lot's of stuff to practice in that quote! Enjoy!
Patrick
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I'm not sure what you mean.
Does that mean that ou won't recommend his review papers - where he says he has studied TGM and he wants to give us information on what he has learned? I have read some of it (How to power the golf swing). Will the stuff here and what he writes differ much?
Well, I don't want to criticize his effort, but I've never seen someone come to so many wrong conclusions, about so much, in such a short amount of time.
I've tried to read his information, I really have and I've tried to give him the benefit of doubt as much as someone trusting can, but when I read his material, tears begin to flow from my eyes and I run out of Kleenex before I get to the end. It's so painful. It's torture.
I'm sorry to hear that. I thought I could trust him, so I took most of it to heart. Do you want to tell me what he has misunderstood and where he has gone wrong, in case I have to forget some of the things I have read.
I'm sorry to hear that. I thought I could trust him, so I took most of it to heart. Do you want to tell me what he has misunderstood and where he has gone wrong, in case I have to forget some of the things I have read.
If what he says works for you, then good. Any information you find needs to be confirmed by you, by trial and error into your own swing.
But, if you'd like an example, then examine his analysis of Right Arm Swinging.
He devotes um-teen paragraphs to the subject and clearly states that TGM lacks in-depth analysis (that's his first mistake), and finally groups "Right Arm Swinging and Hitting" under the same topic (that's his second mistake). Why doesn't he explain that the difference between Right and Left Arm Swinging is the "Center of the Stroke radius" (not to be confused with the center of the Swing).
What differentiates the Left Arm Stroke from the Right Arm Stroke is that the Left Shoulder is the center of the Left Arm Stroke and the Right Elbow is the Center of the Right Arm Stroke. Why doesn't he know that? This is basic stuff.
He doesn't explain any of it this way because he doesn't understand it. He would have been more accurate if he grouped Hitting and Swinging together because at least they both use the Left Shoulder as the center of the Stroke Radius.
So what are you to do with this information? How can his information help you?
The following is a statement made by the Dr.
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The basic idea is that a right arm swinger must mimic Ben Hogan's positional/movement actions as closely as possible - by using the right arm in a "biomechanically correct" way.
Are we to assume that Ben Hogan is a Right Arm Swinger? I don't know what medication the Dr. takes, but I want some.
My advice to you, as it is for anyone, is that it's important to understand and be able to apply the core concepts of the Golf Swing. Dr. Mann will continue to learn and he'll no doubt adjust his conclusions because of it.
I dont'know what works. I'm pretty stuck with all my bad habits. so I have tried to orientate me out of this mess. One-plane swing, Don Trahan, Bobby Eldridge.. you name it and also Jeff Mann. But what I fill my head with and what my body continues to do are two different things. I have bought TGM (from Ben Doyle with inscription) and have ordered the Alignment Golf DVDs and I will make an atempt to start all over again. In the meantime I am trying to sort out what to learn and what to forget.
I dont'know what works. I'm pretty stuck with all my bad habits. so I have tried to orientate me out of this mess. One-plane swing, Don Trahan, Bobby Eldridge.. you name it and also Jeff Mann. But what I fill my head with and what my body continues to do are two different things. I have bought TGM (from Ben Doyle with inscription) and have ordered the Alignment Golf DVDs and I will make an atempt to start all over again. In the meantime I am trying to sort out what to learn and what to forget.
Well, there are much better people on this web-site than me to learn from. There are people here that can really take you from point A to point B. I'm just a "Bumper on a Pool Table". I'm not the "cue ball".
You will hear a lot of interpretations and opinions on the internet by people that do not know the golfing machine or have not spent time on the lesson tee. You won't get that here. Start with the free videos and move into alignment golf. I learned so much from Yoda's basic motion video that I still go back to it whenever I have issues. If you are looking for ways to practically interpret the book, this site is fantastic. Remember you are trying to develop a pattern with components. Easier to accomplish with an instructor, but possible on your own if you do not take shortcuts. My progress has leapfrogged every time I have seen a golfing machine instructor. One visit with Kevin Carter cleared up months of questions about the release.