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Old 08-24-2010, 02:22 PM
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Who would've guessed you are such a softy?
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Well, I don't want to criticize his effort, but I've never seen someone come to so many wrong conclusions, about so much, in such a short amount of time.

I've tried to read his information, I really have and I've tried to give him the benefit of doubt as much as someone trusting can, but when I read his material, tears begin to flow from my eyes and I run out of Kleenex before I get to the end. It's so painful. It's torture.
Mom never said anything about that when she was telling me about your footie pajamas!
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Old 08-24-2010, 02:43 PM
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There are probably not so many TGM instructors here in Norway?
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:21 PM
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Lots of stuff.
By the way is Jeffery Mann a source of valuable information?

http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/index.html
I tend to read and make my own conclusions. That is Daryl's opinion but I have found many of his papers to be much better than your going to find on the net.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:25 PM
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I dont'know what works. I'm pretty stuck with all my bad habits. so I have tried to orientate me out of this mess. One-plane swing, Don Trahan, Bobby Eldridge.. you name it and also Jeff Mann. But what I fill my head with and what my body continues to do are two different things. I have bought TGM (from Ben Doyle with inscription) and have ordered the Alignment Golf DVDs and I will make an atempt to start all over again. In the meantime I am trying to sort out what to learn and what to forget.
The book will give you lots of components in the golf swing but I am afraid without quality instruction the problems that you have will likely still persist.

This is not a knock on any material out there but in my opinion reality. TGM is the best though in terms of explaining what is going on in the golf swing but without a good instructor reading and then incorporating is very difficult. God knows there are few that have tried harder than I have the past year or so.
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:04 PM
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Mom never said anything about that when she was telling me about your footie pajamas!
She didn't tell you that I have an "attitude" at times?
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I see that this book is difficult and will need some hard work. I'm going to work on things I know I need to correct: A flat left wrist. Will start with the basic motion and go from there.

(I would really like to get rid of the OTT and the steep out-to-in down swing. I'm hoping that the hitter style can help me in achieving this.)
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Old 08-24-2010, 05:17 PM
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Air, you can post videos from your phone/camera on this site.
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I see that this book is difficult and will need some hard work. I'm going to work on things I know I need to correct: A flat left wrist. Will start with the basic motion and go from there.

(I would really like to get rid of the OTT and the steep out-to-in down swing. I'm hoping that the hitter style can help me in achieving this.)
You may not have TGM instructors in Norway, but you have several of the best in the world right here!!!!

Post a video of your practice of "basic." then "Acquired Motion" then "Total Motion." Send it to Yoda, too, and pay him his fee for an hour. I'll wager that you get so many diagnostic exercises from him that you'll have the most fun ever golfing with a purpose!

The folks here will kibitz and you will search out what Yoda indicates as your challenges and you will "know" the bio-mechanical realities of your swing vs. an effective golf swing.

Air, let me give you the short course on TGM. You are learning about how to deliver the sweet spot of the club, via the plane of each club in the most bio-mechanically effective manner possible for you as an individual.


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Old 08-25-2010, 03:09 PM
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I am sure you are a golf fanatic like the rest of us who participate in the forums.

I think Homer Kelly created a book that many of us " golf fanatics" can discuss and debate about. The cool thing is there are many ways to swing a club to create the same desired effect.

My opinion of J Mann, his site is well organized and has some thoughtful ideas. I have read a lot of exchanges between him and other posters, and he does disregard some people with his attitude.
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My "problem" is that I like to be educated. That also means that explanations are always welcome, who every they come from (but it has to be correct and understandable..)
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You guys should come to the event that Brian Manzella is having in Arizona. He's going to have 3 Phd's there to discuss the science of the golf swing. I think it would be a good opportunity to share information, and to come closer to the truth. The problem with TGM'ers is that many presented the 'yellow book' as perfect, and as a scientific book. Technology and the rigors of the scientific method will allow teachers of golf with new tools, better ideas, and more truth to share with the golf populace. It seems like TGM'ers are getting left behind. The earth is not flat! Say what you want about Manzella (he can come off a lil strong), but he is willing to admit when he's wrong, and he's always looking for the absolute truth. TGM'ers seem to be in love with the dogma of the 'yellow book', and unwilling to look past the yellow book for answers---- for truth.

Good luck to you all!

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