Let me try to formulate a question about the downswing/release thru impact, if I'm capable of it:
From the top there is a downstroke waggle which the pivot executes with the right-left, right-left rhythm. The bent right arm doesn't begin to straighten out yet. Further down there is a definite downward throw of the club (release trigger?) (for a swinger) (but not a throw away) by the left arm/hand. The throw is in part a uncocking of the LW and a roll/swivel of the left forearm. I guess this must be done while sustaining the lag? Is this quick throw down to the position and not thru the position at impact the same concept as to drag the wet mop - although a throw seems fast and the wet mop dragging seems slow? Furthermore it's not so easy to feel/get the throw to be vertical to the ground to avoid the horizontal motion of the FWL when the club is going forward anyway ...
I have a problem also understanding dragging the mop and throw out. It seems they are not compatible. Just as extensor action seems to conflict with throw out. The muscle tension needed for dragging the mop and extensor action seem to conflict with the relaxed feel I associate with the throw out of centrifugal force.
In the past I feel I have CF working and feel a throw out. Then it is gone and I am rigid again, I am about to say Hell with it and just learn hitting. If I am going to use a wrist throw I have to be relaxed from the top ie have to be ready to throw or allow something to be thrown from the top. So I guess the question is if you are swinging using CF at some point do you feel throw out occur, do you feel a relaxed extension of the right arm, Do you feel it being straightened by the momentum of the swing and weight of the clubs, hands and arm ?
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I have a problem also understanding dragging the mop and throw out. It seems they are not compatible. Just as extensor action seems to conflict with throw out. The muscle tension needed for dragging the mop and extensor action seem to conflict with the relaxed feel I associate with the throw out of centrifugal force.
In the past I feel I have CF working and feel a throw out. Then it is gone and I am rigid again, I am about to say Hell with it and just learn hitting. If I am going to use a wrist throw I have to be relaxed from the top ie have to be ready to throw or allow something to be thrown from the top. So I guess the question is if you are swinging using CF at some point do you feel throw out occur, do you feel a relaxed extension of the right arm, Do you feel it being straightened by the momentum of the swing and weight of the clubs, hands and arm ?
I'm not sure I'm doing so much of this (only Yoda knows). CF is perhaps not my strongest point, but I'm trying to get the left arm roll working (and trying to understand what I'm doing) and keep the LW flat. That helps in itself...(compared with steering, throw aways etc)
I have a problem also understanding dragging the mop and throw out. It seems they are not compatible. Just as extensor action seems to conflict with throw out. The muscle tension needed for dragging the mop and extensor action seem to conflict with the relaxed feel I associate with the throw out of centrifugal force.
In the past I feel I have CF working and feel a throw out. Then it is gone and I am rigid again, I am about to say Hell with it and just learn hitting. If I am going to use a wrist throw I have to be relaxed from the top ie have to be ready to throw or allow something to be thrown from the top. So I guess the question is if you are swinging using CF at some point do you feel throw out occur, do you feel a relaxed extension of the right arm, Do you feel it being straightened by the momentum of the swing and weight of the clubs, hands and arm ?
'Dragging the mop' through the Release Point Triggers the Left Wrist Throw, i.e., the On Plane Extension of the Primary Lever Assembly (Left Arm and Club). The Release Sequence includes this full Uncocking of the Left Wrist as well as its Snap Roll (from Turned to Plane to Vertical) for Impact.
It's a whole lot easier to demonstrate these things than to write about them. And that includes any discussion regarding Extensor Action during the Stroke.
Extencior action is IMO very well described and demonstrated in Yodas alignment video. Personally I got a lot out of that sequence alone.
Isn't extensor action all about making the right arm pull/push on the left arm so the left arm is straighter and has more width in the direction the left forearm thru the index finger is pointing - in a downward direction below the plane (at impact at least)... testing...
For once; You set up a rigid structure with the right arm, one that firms up things and resists slowdown during release and ball contact.
You also use extencior action to extend the hands away from the swing center. This increases the leverage of the pivot. You get to do more work per degree of shoulder turn.
But my current favourite is this: Creating a good muscle tension in the back, right under the left shoulder blade and right above the hip. These are the muscles that pulls the left arm through. The extencior action creates good connection between the pivot and the hands that assures that what you invest in the shoulder turn will pay off through the hands.
I now create this tension around 7-8 o'clock in the back swing as I set my wrists and when I've got everything synced and working 96%, I have a very direct connection between my footwork and the hands (and actually the club).
Thanks for the reply Yoda. What I find difficult is setting free the golfer's flail, I want to bring that flail to life, awaken it. These words I found on the forum in relation to the "stork" drill. I think yoda and EdZ were involved in that one. OB left and Kev also discussed drill a few days ago. Somehow I just can't seem to relax and allow it to occur. I'll have it for a few weeks and "mysteriously" it just disappear.
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