Their movement is 3-d and not planar, and the path depends on swing plane and plane shifts. You could roughly describe the path as a bent fishhook shape, but realize that the straight line part of the paths shown in the book are ideal and not real.
You shouldn't be monitoring the hand path, but instead trace the plane line with PP#3 and have a flat, level left wrist at impact, which, when transported with the pivot, will determine the handpath.
The only way you could come close to a hand path lying on the swing plane would be a left hand grip with the handle running through the life line and the left arm perfectly in line with the shaft at address(zero #3 PA). But even then the shaft lies below the sweetspot plane.
OK now I follow you-
Ypu are thinking 7-23 paragraph #3. I have been thinling release to followthrough.
Yes I do have a 7-23 "plane shift" tsp down to elbow for swinging but I also have a flat plane release to followthrough. HK explains that.
I don't do "sweet spot plane" because, as I have argued before, I just ain't what it is said to be.
Gota get on the same page.
HB
Last edited by HungryBear : 12-05-2012 at 03:46 PM.
The path of the hands is does not lie in the Sweetspot Plane through impact. Note here at :11 thru :14 - the hands are on the TSP Sweetspot plane till Throwout(delivery) starts, where they move under the Sweetspot plane while arcing upward and inward. Look at the angle between the left arm and shaft at impact at :13. The left arm is tracing a bent line on the ground inside the plane line. You are confusing plane line tracing using the imaginary line between PP#3 and the sweetspot, with the hands moving in the Sweetspot Plane.
Not an acceptable camera placement for your arguement.
The path of the hands is does not lie in the Sweetspot Plane through impact. Note here at :11 thru :14 - the hands are on the TSP Sweetspot plane till Throwout(delivery) starts, where they move under the Sweetspot plane while arcing upward and inward. Look at the angle between the left arm and shaft at impact at :13. The left arm is tracing a bent line on the ground inside the plane line. You are confusing plane line tracing using the imaginary line between PP#3 and the sweetspot, with the hands moving in the Sweetspot Plane.
Nope, and if the plane is "3D" there is "off plane" throwaway.
If you care to list "off plane" forces, and how/why they are generated we could see what U believe to be correct.
The hand path isn't planar, because the angle between the left forearm and shaft is less than 180 degs, and therefore the hands must move off plane so that the sweet spot can stay on plane.
In the TSP Swing, the Right Shoulder, PP#3, and the Sweetspot are all on plane from the Top to Throwout, so there are no off-plane forces acting on the Sweetspot. When Throwout begins, the hands move off plane, but the Right Shoulder(Thrust) and PP#3 continue to trace the plane line, and so there is no off plane hand force to deflect the club head unless you try to "add" with the arms or hands.
While you guys are at it, you should explain how not only are the hands "on-plane" during the entire swing, so also are the eyes, ears, nose, left shoulder, hips, elbows, knees and toes!
I'm very serious. You've got a screw loose. We're done. Get back to me in 10 years.
The sad fact is that in 10 yrs, lots of poor souls might read this nonsense you're posting and actually try to keep their hands moving downward on the sweetspot plane all the way to impact !
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