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Old 12-20-2009, 01:48 PM
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Yoda would a Master golfer use left wrist cock and its Delayed Release to increase the Angle of Attack at times for those little shots?

Say for a little chip from longish rough for example? In an effort to get less grass between the face and ball. A slight sacrifice in Distance Control for improved Impact conditions.
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Old 12-20-2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post
Here is a pretty cool down the line video of Rory Mclroy releasing.



Grand Masta Jacka's gone G. But not before he spun this thread off topic and outta control.

Who knows where he'll jump in next.

Watch out, here comes the Jacka man!

But lets try to get him back. Rory's #3 at impact is no where near Jackas (hey if i added one more "s" to that what do you got? Say it again.) 60 degree thing. Jacka made a good point , for a change, but he might have been diminishing the #2 angle's contribution to Fully Cocked for the ego/optics of his own assertion. He's kind of flamboyant with the truth sometimes. All those super hero types are when you get to know them a little.

Come back Jack, JACKA.........!

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Old 12-20-2009, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by O.B.Left View Post
Grand Masta Jacka's gone G. But not before he spun this thread off topic and outta control.

Who knows where he'll jump in next.

Watch out, here comes the Jacka man!

But lets try to get him back. Rory's #3 at impact is no where near Jackas (hey if i added one more "s" to that what do you got? Say it again.) 60 degree thing. Jacka made a good point , for a change, but he might have been diminishing the #2 angle's contribution to Fully Cocked for the ego/optics of his own assertion. He's kind of flamboyant with the truth sometimes. All those super hero types are when you get to know them a little.

Come back Jack, JACKA.........!
Ok - the Jackas. approach gives you street cred - aka a good chuckle - so I'm back. Original post stands, that is anatomically with the left wrist flat you max the radial deviation/ abduction/ wrist cock at 20 degrees. If you feel like that doesn't complete the forumula of A-Accumulator#3 +B)Wristcock = C) top of the swing angle between left arm and clubshaft - then you need D) left wrist extension i.e. bend, which will provide added "angle". That assumes you are moving into more of a bend than where you measured the #3 to begin with i.e. address. Lee Trevino vs John Daly Happy now Jacko!
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Old 12-20-2009, 07:06 PM
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Ok - the Jackas. approach gives you street cred - aka a good chuckle - so I'm back. Original post stands, that is anatomically with the left wrist flat you max the radial deviation/ abduction/ wrist cock at 20 degrees. If you feel like that doesn't complete the forumula of A-Accumulator#3 +B)Wristcock = C) top of the swing angle between left arm and clubshaft - then you need D) left wrist extension i.e. bend, which will provide added "angle". That assumes you are moving into more of a bend than where you measured the #3 to begin with i.e. address. Lee Trevino vs John Daly Happy now Jacko!


I know you want to add a couple of "f's" to what you just called me but thanks for coming back, Jacka.

I hear ya, makes sense, it just seems like 60 degrees of #3 is a lot isnt it for a Level left wrist at address. Let me think on it, wheres my compass and protractor?

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Old 12-20-2009, 09:07 PM
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I used 60 degrees of accumulator #3 as an easy way to get to 90 degrees given the addition of wristcock. Let's make sure we are on the right track here- I'm not saying anyone was at 60 degrees nor did I measure if anyone was at 90 degrees- it was all in the discussion of 90 degrees of wristcock or 20 degrees of wristcock? I've clarified why it's not 90 degrees of wristcock- due to whatever amount of #3 one has. And as the wrist moves through bending and arching- it doesn't stay in-line with the forearm so therefore it also affects the clubshaft relationship to the forearm/arm. I'm just discussing the general idea - not worried about any particular degrees.
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Old 12-20-2009, 11:13 PM
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OK Jacka Ill cut you some slack on the 60 degrees Jack. (do i sound like a total dufus here or what? Huggy Bear or like Mrs Cleaver in Airplane?)

Thanks Mike but in all seriousness you're now getting into my most serious mind bender issue with TGM........how can you cock and uncock upon the Inclined Plane when the left arm isnt on the Inclined Plane and maintain the LAFW, the vertical plane of the Left Hand Wrist Cock? Ah maybe I didnt say that quite right?

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Old 12-21-2009, 10:11 AM
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If one were to have a flat left wrist - the wrist istself wouldn't cock and uncock on plane- because as you mentioned the left arm/shoulder (normally)isn't on-plane. And your problem is?
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Old 12-21-2009, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike O View Post
If one were to have a flat left wrist - the wrist istself wouldn't cock and uncock on plane- because as you mentioned the left arm/shoulder (normally)isn't on-plane. And your problem is?
My fog surrounds the plane of the left hand wrist cock. Left Arm or Inclined Plane? It cant be both if the left arm isnt on the inclined plane. I want it on the Inclined Plane, but then what of the LAFW?

I get that if you turn your left hand to the plane with a little bending, the cocking and uncocking is on the plane but then you've added some Horizontal Left Hand Motion havent you? I thought that was a no,no?

Are you saying its grip type dependent? Did you mean "Flat" as weak or geometrically flat?
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Old 12-21-2009, 03:13 PM
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My fog surrounds the plane of the left hand wrist cock. Left Arm or Inclined Plane? It cant be both if the left arm isnt on the inclined plane. I want it on the Inclined Plane, but then what of the LAFW?

I get that if you turn your left hand to the plane with a little bending, the cocking and uncocking is on the plane but then you've added some Horizontal Left Hand Motion havent you? I thought that was a no,no?

Are you saying its grip type dependent? Did you mean "Flat" as weak or geometrically flat?
The Plot Thickens. Cocking and Uncocking are always on the Plane of the LAFW and when the shaft is parallel to the ground it is also parallel to the baseline of the inclined plane. All performed with a Flat Left wrist. Under specific conditions all 3 of the above exist throughout the swing.

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OOOH! This is getting good- Daryl's showing up.

LAFW - Level, A?, Flat Wrist
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