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Old 05-12-2010, 10:05 AM
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What Hank described a POSITION that parallel and above the shift plane might be exist but his action as described in 10-7-c of the yellow book is easy for reference.
Hey KOC how are you?

That looks pretty good, doesnt it? Im kind of surprised.


But when you see the club you get a slightly different picture Im thinking. Parallel planes with the club and the left arm on the Left Shoulder Plane and the whole thing pointed outside the Plane Line. Made possible by an off plane left wrist cock. Literally flat left wrist as opposed to Geometrically flat. Fore right!


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OB, thanks, 1-L, we should have looked there first.

1-L-6
The Clubshaft always points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.

I believe Mr. Haney takes the word "parallel" in a different direction as far as Mr. Kelley's concept goes...

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Old 05-12-2010, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
OB, thanks, 1-L, we should have looked there first.

1-L-6
The Clubshaft always points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.

I believe Mr. Haney takes the word "parallel" in a different direction as far as Mr. Kelley's concept goes...

Kevin
Oh ya that is a different meaning to "parallel" for sure, and see 1-L-18. This is key. This is "THE" plane, but it shifts by changing its angle as opposed to finding a new Plane all together, one that the ball doesnt lie on.



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Old 05-12-2010, 10:39 AM
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OB,

Fine...just read seldom post.

Frankly speaking...I quit chasing TW.
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:47 AM
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OB,

Fine...just read seldom post.

Frankly speaking...I quit chasing TW.

He closer than ever now, you can do it.
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Old 05-12-2010, 10:57 AM
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The "mind in the hands"


This is my view of 'the' plane for a zero shift motion.

The hands, the #1pressure point's path. With zero #3 accumulator, it is easier to see.

Way too much attention has been spent on what the shaft does. The shaft does what the hands tell it.

So focus on what the hands do!

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If I were as talented as you guys in describing the optimum TGM situations...
here is what I would do...and this is based on being in the top 1% of American Express' sales force for two years in a row...I would send Mr. Woods a registered letter drafted by all of the administrators on this site, and I would chip in $200 each for his family's tickets and smorgasboard meal pass and room (a little MN humor there) and I would invite the guy for a weekend to see what 1-L-6 and the vertical hinge could do for a talented person.

Mr. Woods will never be more approachable and he might appreciate the kind gesture given the idiot journalists and his own weakness!

He would benefit from you guys, moy mucho!

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Originally Posted by KevCarter View Post
OB, thanks, 1-L, we should have looked there first.

1-L-6
The Clubshaft always points at the Plane Line except when they are parallel to each other.

I believe Mr. Haney takes the word "parallel" in a different direction as far as Mr. Kelley's concept goes...

Kevin
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:15 AM
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Edz,

He is at the elbow plane at address and impact (red line) and at the turned shoulder plane at the end (black line)

That looks like a stock double plane shifter per TGM to me.
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Old 05-12-2010, 11:49 AM
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Edz,

He is at the elbow plane at address and impact (red line) and at the turned shoulder plane at the end (black line)

That looks like a stock double plane shifter per TGM to me.
Exactly what a waste - HH must have a primitive knowledge of the inclined plane. Was he trying to get Tiger to match his impact shaft line to his setup shaft line? IMHO that would be a power/consistancy leak.
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Old 05-12-2010, 12:45 PM
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thanks all for the input, I am still pretty confused but thank you for info. I am going to try reading it few times to see if it sinks in.
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