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Old 12-18-2010, 06:27 AM
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I can give you my version. But what if you give us your version first? I'm a firm believer in experience based learning.

As most of us you probably don't hit every drive the same distance. What do you do different when you hit your max distance as opposed to your typical mis hit distance wise?
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That was actually difficult. I have some ideas, but it's very unsystematic.

Strong grip, Proper weightshift. Good release. Clubhead speed, Compression, Lag, Hit the sweetspot. Swing path slightly from the inside-out with horizontal hinging...
will hopefully get it done.....?
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:01 AM
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They are more demanding.

I thought that all the education the hands get, made them smarter, but they only get demanding? It doesn't sound like the education works like it should.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:04 AM
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LOL Air!

Sure, just like people in real life, once they get educated, they get cocky...

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Old 12-18-2010, 10:15 AM
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LOL Air!

Sure, just like people in real life, once they get educated, they get cocky...

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That's probably why I'm not so cocky (any more?) - I forget most of the things I have learned almost all the time.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:19 AM
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That's probably why I'm not so cocky (any more?) - I forget most of the things I have learned almost all the time.
I think as we get older and wiser, we learn how much we DON'T know!

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Old 12-18-2010, 10:32 AM
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I know that I don't know either what I think I know, or what I should know.

I do have one strong thought - that litle white ball doesn't lie and is entirely unsusceptible to BS.
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Old 12-18-2010, 10:35 AM
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I think as we get older and wiser, we learn how much we DON'T know!

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I know what I don't know - but I'm not sure that makes me wise?
BTW - how old are we when we we turn wise?
From wise guy to only wise..?

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Old 12-18-2010, 10:55 AM
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ok.
That was actually difficult. I have some ideas, but it's very unsystematic.

Strong grip, Proper weightshift. Good release. Clubhead speed, Compression, Lag, Hit the sweetspot. Swing path slightly from the inside-out with horizontal hinging...
will hopefully get it done.....?
I was actually aiming for something even more difficult. A response based on your own experience. What separates your best shots from the rest?
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:08 AM
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I was actually aiming for something even more difficult. A response based on your own experience. What separates your best shots from the rest?
My own experience? Hmm

It's a little like the lottery. I can tell afterwards if the shot was good or not, but I never know what's coming.

My own best drives are when I have less OTT, steep out-to-in downstroke and instead get a more rounded backswing, extensor action without swaying and a loose enough left wrist to get a left arm role thru the ball.(Is that the same as horizontal hinging?). And swing thru to a full finsh.

Sometimes it works ok and sometimes not so ok.
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Old 12-18-2010, 11:38 AM
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The hands are virtually smarter than the pivot?
The hands are virtually smarter than your brain. That's how it feels to me anyway.

They seem to know the flaws in my swing even though I'm not aware of them myself. And they seem to know the outcome of any stroke before I start moving the club back and what compensations are required to prevent disaster.

I often have a flaw in my putting stroke that makes me close the putter face between address and impact. The amazing part of it is that when this flaw is on, what I see a straight line towards the hole when I address the ball is actually a curved line that compensate for the difference in club face orientation. I don't make many putts when that appears, but it is still a fascinating compensation. And I can still two putt from a distance with it.

Lately I've began to use this as a warning sign. I double check the line. When I see a curved line as a straight line while standing over the ball I know that I am not set up correctly to the ball and sometimes I can eliminate the misalignment by starting all over.

My hands aren't in full command of the pivot. Far from it. But the hands seems to be quite capable of making (almost) the best out of the pivot at the time. If I have swing issues and the score is ruined already I can switch into "fix the swing mode" while I play. From time to time then, I can fix something that enables me to hit shots with lots of swing speed and lag pressure, good balance, a full finish and all that feel-good stuff. Bet even though everything feels perfect the shot starts out towards right field and slices some more! Or snap hooks. But distance is good, though This is pivot controlled hands to me. An extreme version of it.

But usually, when I'm in scoring mood, my hands will not allow me to do that. I am more likely to flip, quit, lose my balance, do whatever it takes to give the ball a fair chance of finding the fairway. Usually, when I start my round, I can score pretty well the first 5-6 holes with a stroke that is totally unimpressive and that feels disgusting. But eventually I get caught up by the flaws unless a good stroke clicks in.

What I do when I manage to rescue my score for the time being is very hands control oriented. I only think of impact, what the hands must do and the pressure they must feel through impact to get the job done.

There are a few occations where this hands controlled mental triggers a really good stroke pattern. And that would be my finest moments out on the course, and also the closest I've ever been to hands controlled pivot. When everything clicks in I *know* that I am going to hit the ball exactly as hard as I want to before I start taking the club back. And I *know* that I will get close to the target.
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