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Old 12-22-2010, 11:21 PM
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Can pivot controlled hands and hands controlled pivot in a golf swing seemingly look alike even though they are the opposite of each other?
I'll give you my highly personal answer, which isn't quite out of the book;

If your left hand is laid off at impact you're in serious trouble.

If your right hand is laid off at impact you're playing the pivot game. And more so the earlier it happens.

I think true impact control means having two strong hands at the club during ball contact. I had an hour today where I only needed to think draw or fade, and the hands delivered. I was totally connected from both sides during the impact interval.
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:22 AM
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I'll give you my highly personal answer, which isn't quite out of the book;

If your left hand is laid off at impact you're in serious trouble.

If your right hand is laid off at impact you're playing the pivot game. And more so the earlier it happens.

I think true impact control means having two strong hands at the club during ball contact. I had an hour today where I only needed to think draw or fade, and the hands delivered. I was totally connected from both sides during the impact interval.
The left wrist controls the clubface, right? If the FLW is at the right place at impact - does it really matter that much what happens in the backstroke - it's the downstroke and especially how the left wrist works at impact that counts? Or?
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Old 12-23-2010, 07:41 AM
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That is a feeling you should hold on to, nurture and listen to. I truly believe having a feeling of what's going on beats everything geometrical - if you take it serious.
Maybe you are talking about small differences, because your bad shots are not that bad? I'm talking about REAL bad shots. One has to blind and dumb and one handed not to feel the difference between this and an occational real good shot.
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:29 AM
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The left wrist controls the clubface, right? If the FLW is at the right place at impact - does it really matter that much what happens in the backstroke - it's the downstroke and especially how the left wrist works at impact that counts? Or?
The back stroke is very important. Start to study the back stroke of your playing partners. You should soon be able to spot something being off in the early part of their back stroke when they hit poor shots.

All the pros you see on TV have a "perfect" back stroke by comparison so you have to study "real" golfers to appreciate this.
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Old 12-23-2010, 10:48 AM
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Maybe you are talking about small differences, because your bad shots are not that bad? I'm talking about REAL bad shots. One has to blind and dumb and one handed not to feel the difference between this and an occational real good shot.
It happens to the best, air. Have you not seen when Tiger drives the ball into the next county? Even the best players in the world make a lot of mistakes.

I'm talking about small and big differences. If you can feel a bad stroke while you're executing you are not far away from feeling a bad stroke while doing the back swing. Perhaps you can feel that already. And perhaps you can even sniff whether you're going to be successful before you start moving the club.

As you get better you may be amazed by how small differences you can feel.

I am at a stage where I usually can feel a lot of early indications about what's waiting at address. At my best I see/feel a good impact coming. Sometimes when I struggle, I get a visual of a snap hook. What I feel is a reflection of how I am aligned and how I have programmed the motion. So part of the programming and the alignment is controling me but it should be the other way around.

Part of the improvement for me is to become better at reversing the relationship: Feel the stroke I intend to make and then program the machinery for proper execution.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:00 AM
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good morning/ good evening

I might add i am very happy with your success at
the big C, and with Yoda. You mentioned the word
depression,if may draw an analogy. Yoda is a surgeon you are the patient, sometimes the "arm"
needs to be broken before it can be reset.Just allow
yourself to enjoy the journey, you will attain your goal. Good Luck to you and happy holidays

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Old 12-23-2010, 11:09 AM
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good morning/ good evening

I might add i am very happy with your success at
the big C, and with Yoda. You mentioned the word
depression,if may draw an analogy. Yoda is a surgeon you are the patient, sometimes the "arm"
needs to be broken before it can be reset.Just allow
yourself to enjoy the journey, you will attain your goal. Good Luck to you and happy holidays

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Thank you for your concern. It didn't last more than a couple of weeks - and I found the solution - a new trip in March - something to look forward to.
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Old 12-23-2010, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by overpar85 View Post

I might add i am very happy with your success at
the big C, and with Yoda. You mentioned the word
depression,if may draw an analogy. Yoda is a surgeon you are the patient, sometimes the "arm"
needs to be broken before it can be reset.
Correct me if I'm wrong, Air, but I think your "depression" was one born of having to leave Cuscowilla (and your golf experience) and return to Norway (with the onset of its long, dark winter and its golf courses covered in snow and ice). It had nothing to do with the tremendous progress you made with your Golf Stroke during your time with me.

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Old 12-23-2010, 12:47 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, Air, but I think your "depression" was one born of having to leave Cuscowilla (and your golf experience) and return to Norway (with the onset of its long, dark winter and its golf courses covered in snow and ice). It had nothing to do with the tremendous progress you made with your Golf Stroke during your time with me.

Correct. The transition was like a paralyzing shock.
(I have always had problems in my transition in golf as well).
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:51 PM
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The back stroke is very important. Start to study the back stroke of your playing partners. You should soon be able to spot something being off in the early part of their back stroke when they hit poor shots.

All the pros you see on TV have a "perfect" back stroke by comparison so you have to study "real" golfers to appreciate this.
You are 95% right, but there have been some strange backswings - Furyk, Darcy etc - but they managed to have great impacts.
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