Compare the Video below to the blowhard sniveling swiveling video in your post above. (I mean that with the utmost respect).
This was discovered by Homer Kelley. The Right Forearm Angle of Approach. Phil has re-named it the "Hinge and Hold". Geek? He then, obviously traces the Angle of Approach at Impact to Finish.
Watch the red dots.
So, using the Right Forearm Angle of Approach, and, adding Layback to the Horizontal Hinge by Tracing the Clubhead Angle of Approach (thus, an Angled Hinge Action) has helped Phil make a few more bucks.
As he says: "There is only one way to chip", ya Phil, but it's called the Right Forearm Angle of Approach and "Hinge Action". Don't listen to his "Hands Acceleration" Tip because it will eventually lead to Chipping "YIPS". Drag the Clubhead. The Pulley ensures clubhead acceleration.
Keep the Right Wrist Bent (and Level) through Impact.
Red Dots AND HORIZONTAL HINGES W/LAYBACK ARE FOREVER!
Originally Posted by Daryl
Compare the Video below to the blowhard sniveling swiveling video in your post above. (I mean that with the utmost respect).
This was discovered by Homer Kelley. The Right Forearm Angle of Approach. Phil has re-named it the "Hinge and Hold". Geek? He then, obviously traces the Angle of Approach at Impact to Finish.
Watch the red dots.
So, using the Right Forearm Angle of Approach, and, adding Layback to the Horizontal Hinge by Tracing the Clubhead Angle of Approach (thus, an Angled Hinge Action) has helped Phil make a few more bucks.
As he says: "There is only one way to chip", ya Phil, but it's called the Right Forearm Angle of Approach and "Hinge Action". Don't listen to his "Hands Acceleration" Tip because it will eventually lead to Chipping "YIPS". Drag the Clubhead. The Pulley ensures clubhead acceleration.
Keep the Right Wrist Bent (and Level) through Impact.
All is well on the non-Sandy effected Eastern Front! I got to the range today after working to 7pm each night for two glorious hours of 46 degree practice!
Place my dots on my hands, correctly assembled my short thumb, snuff box to the right of center of the shaft laid the # 3 PP dead aft of the shaft so that the # 3 PP and left thumb are aft of the shaft. RFT with layback for chips for a good 30 minutes and the short chips jumped off the face higher and further than before!
Acquired Motion- Right Forearm at 90 degrees to the Face of the Plan and pretended I was Zach Johnson sliding down the Plastic Plane! Even in the colder weather the 8 irons were flying straight and dropping between 140 and 145. My 9.5 degree Adams Redline Driver sailed well past the 200 yard marker AND IT WAS STILL CLIMBING OUT OF SIGHT!
The shots seem to keep climbing and then just drop from the sky. Here's a question though. When my RFT is at my shoulder and laid back, full Extensor Action, it seems I have a choice. When I leave my Right Forearm Flying Wedge at my shoulder (proper ball position and width) and Pivot like I'm hitting the ball with my shoulder, I get a very high Horizontal Hinge with a slight 10 yard draw and the ball seems to have two acceleration phases which is way cool! When I decide to leave my right arm stretched all the way straight behind me, and simply let the left vertical wrist un-cock down the face of the plane I get a very straight ball or a fade depending on my ball position and width of stance.
Both shots demand that I watch Impact till the ball is away and man does that ball explode! Are both Swings? Both have Pivots and man, there seems to be no end to the accuracy and almost no end to the power!
Thanks Daryl, very cool!
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If Pennsylvania goes Democrat, and you hit a perfect shot, then you'll be required to share that with the less skilled and fortunate players. Either by a Fee (1 stroke penalty) or a Tax (take 20 yards off your Drives and give them to your opponent).
If you consistently out perform your competitors, then they get to play from the forward tees (regulations). Because, you didn't "Build It" in that "You" can only be a winner if "others" are losers. So, they should share in your good fortune.
Rules will be strictly enforced:
Better Players get Late Tee Times
Better Players have limited practice time and only on Mondays
If you are Winning at the Turn, automatic 3 stroke penalty.
If you win money, it will be divided equally among the other Players
Love to see Daryl posting. It feels like home again!!!
Kevin
Nice to see you too! With a better economy we hope, maybe we can all meet at your place?! How far is the nearest major airport to you?
Pat
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missed that first part, Jim. What did you say? Oh! I hear you now!
1-L #4 -- The Hinge Assembly controls the Clubface alignment!
You are right!
But then you say, it does not control the Clubface alignment, and Yodais confused. The Clubface's circular, horizontal ('closing' only) motionis the direct and inevitable result of the identical motion of thehorizontal blade rotating about its vertical pin. If this is notcontrolling the Clubface alignment throughout the motion, then what is?
And surely you did not mean that the Clubface should stay 'square' to the Line,did you? Because if so, that would be Steering, the No. 1 Snare in theGame -- attempting to hold the Clubface square to the Line of Flight. And welearned in Lesson One that you cannot make the blade of a hinge move in astraight line. It only moves in a circle!
Remember, in G.O.L.F. we are dealing with a Force moving in a circle --the Clubhead Orbit (2-N-0). And because you measure the circumference of acircle in terms of angles from its center, we call that force Angular Force.Force moving in a straight line -- like a pool stick through a cue ball-- is Linear Force. The problem we have in golf is to produce thesame effect as a Linear Force -- a point of contact between Ball andClubface that remains welded until separation -- while our Clubheadforce is moving in a circle. And the way you do that is through this HorizontalMotion of the Clubface through Impact.
At Impact a Line of Compression (2-C-0) is constructed through the Ball-- like a bullet hole through a baseball. This is a Linear Force.Now, if we can keep that point of contact -- the Compression Point, fromslipping on the Face, then we will have 'sustained' the Line of Compression.This maintains the Linear Force in relation to the Ball, eventhough the Ball has now joined the Orbiting Clubface in its circular,centrifugal journey.
The is the goal of every Golfing Machine: To sustain the Linear Line ofCompression as the Orbiting Clubhead is Arcing through Impact. And itall begins here with an understanding of the horizontal motion the Clubfacemust make through Impact. Then we must train our Flat Left Wrist to reproduceits motion on demand.
So, the Horizontal Hinge Assembly is producing a pure 'opening and closing'-- ONLY! -- Motion of the Clubface. THERE IS NO LAYBACK! If Impactoccurred with the Clubface in the 'slightly Open' alignment, and if separation(of Ball and Clubface) occurred with the Clubface Square to the target line,then the result would be a perfectly Straight Shot and Maximum Compression.
The 'Closing Only' Motion produces the Ideal Application of Linear Force(2-C-1) because the Angled Clubshaft and the Closing Clubface are rotatingabout the same center. Thus, there is no glancing force (except forbackspin). This 'Closing Only' Motion of the hinge blade produces the exactsame motion in the Clubface. And because the Clubface does not Lay Back, thetrue loft of the Club is maintained throughout the Impact Interval.Further, since there is no 'tilting under' of the Clubface, the Ball andFace stay welded, and the Compression Point -- the 'point of contact'between Club and Ball -- is maintained until they separate.
Hinges whose blades duplicate the remaining two planes of motion -- verticaland angled -- do Lay Back, and this causes the Clubface to made anidentical 'Layback' motion through Impact. With Vertical Hinging -- the'Layback Only' Cut Shot (2-C-2) -- as in Horizontal Hinging with its 'ClosingOnly' Motion -- the Point (and Line) of Compression is sustained. However, theLayback of the Clubface effectively increases the Clubface Loft and thereforeproduces higher, softer Shots than the Ideal Application of the HorizontalHinge. This characteristic Ball Flight may be exactly what the player intendsto produce -- out of a greenside bunker, for example. On the other hand, it isdoubtful the player would deliberately employ this technique off the tee of along Par Four!
The Lob Shot (2-C-3) is the Low Point application of 'Layback Only.'This results in a 'tilting under' of the Clubface through the Ball and a totalloss of the Compression Point. This loss of the original contact point istermed 'Compression Leakage,' and in this application produces the LobShot, the high no-spin floater. This is the Shot Mr. Mickelson oftenuses greenside, but again, has probably never used off the tee.
The Angled Hinge also results in Compression Leakage. Here, we have on and Slicing tendency. There are compensations for this deficiency, but the Angled Hinge application of Linear Force remains inferior to the pure 2-C-1 Ideal Application of the Horizontal Hinge.
So, the Hinge Assembly does indeed control the Club face alignment, and tomorrow we will re-orient the hinge pin to see exactly how that occurs.
I'll be back tomorrow to complete our 'mechanical' stuff. Then we'll get on to educating our Flat and Vertical Left Wrist to duplicate the Three Planes of Motion on the face of one Inclined Plane.
By maintaining my right wrist looking AT THE SKY as deeply as possible in my swing I get a very, very high draw! I hit a shot at the range the other day. 50 degrees or so outside, with a 12 degree driver, Cleveland 270, and the ball was about 20 stories high as it rose over the 200 yard marker still looking for an apex! I was shocked! So I did it again! My 9.5 degree Adams red-line was only about 10 stories high while still looking for the apex at 200.
The irons keep going up until the just drop out of the sky! so cool!
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
Nice to see you too! With a better economy we hope, maybe we can all meet at your place?! How far is the nearest major airport to you?
Pat
I would love for you guys to come up. Unfortunately, MSP is the closest airport, but that would be perfect for you and Jerry to make the drive up together. The best bet for Daryl would probably be to drive. Probably a little over 5 hours, but an easy drive. We could all go to Chicago as well...
Kevin
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I could be wrong. I have been before, and will be again.
By maintaining my right wrist looking AT THE SKY as deeply as possible in my swing I get a very, very high draw! I hit a shot at the range the other day. 50 degrees or so outside, with a 12 degree driver, Cleveland 270, and the ball was about 20 stories high as it rose over the 200 yard marker still looking for an apex! I was shocked! So I did it again! My 9.5 degree Adams red-line was only about 10 stories high while still looking for the apex at 200.
The irons keep going up until the just drop out of the sky! so cool!
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Underhand Pitch, Motion and Feel
rchang72 wrote:
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Yoda
Shift your Body into its Impact Fix Alignments.
Keeping your Right Forearm Flying Wedge intact -- that means Right Wrist Bent and dowel parallel to the floor (or ground) -- move the Club into an On Horizontal Plane Backstroke by Bending your Right Elbow.
Yoda,
When I take my stance with the impact fix alignments is my back at an incline, or do I stand straight up? And is the bending and straightening of the elbow along the line the right forearm makes on the horizontal plane?
I'm afraid that I'm not getting this part icon_redface.gif
Yoda's response:
For purposes of the drill on the Horizontal Plane, stand erect. But...be surethat you are your Weight is left and that your Hips and Shoulders are Open.This will allow you to move the Right Forearm Flying Wedge back and throughfreely. When you transfer the drill to the Inclined Plane of Motion, imitatethe pictures in 9-1-1 #2 and #3 for Waist Bend / Spine Angle.
Also, remember that the entire Right Forearm Flying Wedge -- the Right Elbow,the Forearm, the Bent Right Wrist, the No. 3 Pressure Point andthe Rigid Extension, i. e., the dowel -- will remain on the HorizontalPlane throughout. The Big Deal is to set the Right Wrist in a Rigid Bent RightWrist Condition and then hold it throughout the 'Backstroke' and'Throughstroke.'
DivotDelite wrote:
Hi:
I understand for swingers, the left wrist action controls the clubhead, and the left hands controls closing and opening of the clubface. With dual horizontal hinging 10-10-D and standard wrist action 10-18-A. the left wrist uncocks and rolls through impact, and the left hand hinges horizontally to close the clubface.
My question is what is the right forearm and wrist doing? I had always assumed that the right wrist was rolling to match what the left hand and forearm was doing. This is common instruction on websites and books.
A wrist throw trigger 10-20-E says "the Right Hand remains palm-up to the Plane during the Uncocking of the Left Wrist to produce a sequenced release per 2-G and 4-D-0." In order to keep the flying wedge assembly and to keep the left wrist flat and uncocking, and to keep the right wrist bent and the right palm face up to the plane, the wrist has to turn??
For the past year, my right wrist had been rolling through impact. Could never understand the underhand pitching motion that was described doing it that way. But if I turn my right wrist on the downstroke and through impact, then it feels like an underhand pitching motion. AM i completely off base? I couldn't find a section in the Yellow Book which describes what the right wrist is doing through release and impact except for one sentence in 10-20-E, but it was a bit vague.
Thanks
Yoda said:
Your first three analytical paragraphs are absolutely correct. You have doneyour homework and are to be congratulated for being 'on the money.'
You have accurately described the pure Swinging Motion. It features a TurnedLeft Wrist on the Backstroke; a 'Karate Chop' Uncocking Left Wrist fom the Top;a Swiveling Left Wrist from Release into Impact; the Full Roll Feel of LeftHand Horizontal Hinge Action to the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight); andfinally, the Left Wrist Swivel into the Finish. The Left Wrist is The Lordof the Grip, and therefore, as you have correctly observed, the RightWrist is a complement to these Left Wrist Actions. See the UsefulCombinations 5-A/B/C/D.
So, you don't feel "Underhand Pitch Motion and Feel' doing all thatTurning, Cocking, On Plane Karate Chopping, Uncocking, Swiveling, Rolling andSwiveling again?? I bring glad tidings...
Who would?
Nobody!
The 'Underhand Pitch' part of the Pure Swing -- which concentrates on the LeftWrist Action described above -- just ain't there!
Unless, of course, you can somehow sense the Feel of the Full Roll ofHorizontal Hinge Action -- which is a 'No Roll' Feel on its own HorizontalPlane -- as an Underhand Pitch. But I seriously doubt you or anyone else can,because the fact is that it Feels like a Full Roll on the Angled Plane ofMotion.
So, where's the disconnect between what you are able to Feel and what Homer isdescribing in 2-N-0? Here's the key:
You must focus on your Right Forearm Flying Wedge (6-B-3-0-1). When youdo, you will see that its On Plane Right Forearm and its Bent RightWrist and its No. 3 Pressure Point and its Rigid ClubshaftExtension moves through Impact as a Paddlewheel (6-B-1-0). Thestraightening of the Right Elbow -- under the command of the Left Arm CheckreinAction -- powers, guides and regulates the No. 3 Accumulator (Left Forearm andClubshaft Angle) and with it the Clubhead Closing through Impact.
Even though the Left Wrist precisely aligns the Swinger's Clubface forHorizontal Hinging, the Paddlewheel Action of the Right Forearm is there.Per 4-D-0, the Swinger concentrates on Wrist Action and the Hitterconcentrates on Hand Action. If you want to sense Underhand Pitch,Motion and Feel, you must focus on Right Arm and Frozen Bent Right WristPaddlewheel Action, not the Swinger's Uncocking, Swiveling and Rolling LeftWrist Action.
Here's how to do that:
Get your Sand Wedge (or, better yet, a wooden dowel you can buy in any hardwarestore [48" X 1/4" diameter]). Grip it with your Right Hand only (inits normal positon on the Shaft). Go to Fix. Body shifted Left and PivotZeroed out. Right Wrist Bent with Shaft leaning forward ('againstthe Ball'). Now, keeping your Right Wrist Bent, take the Club up with a BendingRight Elbow and Magical Right Forearm Takeaway (7-3). Go no further Backthan Right Forearm Level to the ground (Acquired Motion 12-5-2). Better yet, stopat Basic Motion, two feet back per 12-5-1. Then, go through no further thanknee high (12-5-1 or waist high (12-5-2).
Check your Right Wrist. It has Flattened, right? Well, it should not have! Itshould still be Bent! Do this one-arm drill over and over again untilyou can go from your initial Fix position Bent Right Wrist to the Topto the end of the Follow-Through with your Right Wrist still Bent.Hit the first fifty Balls in your next five practice sessions with just yourRight Arm Flying Wedge. No more than about 20-25 yards. That's all! No GoldStars for distance! Gold Stars for finishing with a Bent Right Wrist at the endof your Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight Position). In other words, per4-D-1, you must learn to Straighten your Right Arm without Flattening yourRight Wrist. Practice also with your dowel on the Horizontal Plane per mypost last night ('Keeping You Busy') in the Five Steps To A Magical RightForearm Flying Wedge thread. As you learn to do this, you will suddenlyfind that you Feel...
Right Arm Underhand Pitch, Motion and Feel.
Congratulations!
You are becoming a G.O.L.F.er!
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
It is so cool to feel the right forearm with right wrist up on takeaway to Acquired Motion, leaving it up with Extensor Action at the shoulder and using the Pivot for a Horizontal Hinge from the shoulder!
ICT
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HP, grant me the serenity to accept what I cannot change, the courage to change what I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. Progress and not perfection is the goal every day!
It is so cool to feel the right forearm with right wrist up on takeaway to Acquired Motion, leaving it up with Extensor Action at the shoulder and using the Pivot for a Horizontal Hinge from the shoulder!
ICT
Have you had time to review videos (in slo-mo) to confirm that all good ball strikers have their flying wedges aligned at impact to 90 degrees?
I got to the range today after working to 7pm each night for two glorious hours of 46 degree practice! 
Both have Pivots and man, there seems to be no end to the accuracy and almost no end to the power!
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